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PIKEMAN  
#1 Posted : 06 June 2016 09:00:58(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

My understanding is that this is an alternative to an improvement or prohibition notice - however, I have discovered that this is can be also IN ADDITION to these. Am I correct or what?
Victor Meldrew  
#2 Posted : 06 June 2016 09:02:33(UTC)
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Victor Meldrew

Most definitely you are correct.
bigpub  
#3 Posted : 06 June 2016 09:04:43(UTC)
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bigpub

Yes, both barrels
Ian A-H  
#4 Posted : 06 June 2016 10:26:10(UTC)
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Ian  A-H

It's just adding invoice to injury.

Sorry.
gramsay  
#5 Posted : 06 June 2016 11:04:08(UTC)
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gramsay

Ian A-H wrote:
It's just adding invoice to injury.

Sorry.


That made my morning a lot better!
Andrew W Walker  
#6 Posted : 06 June 2016 11:44:25(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

gramsay wrote:
Ian A-H wrote:
It's just adding invoice to injury.

Sorry.


That made my morning a lot better!


Mine too...
A Brown  
#7 Posted : 06 June 2016 12:13:52(UTC)
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A Brown

Not 'Can be', but if there is a breach requiring a notice, it 'WILL be'.

If there is a breach that doesn't require a notice, but is clarified in writing, it will still incur FFI.

It's a wonder it's such a success..........

Al

PIKEMAN  
#8 Posted : 06 June 2016 16:14:52(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

So as I understand it an IN will always get you FFI, but can you have FFI without an IN? This was the way it was originally presented ie everyone wins - employer does not get an IN but pays HSE a fee. Or have I misunderstood?
chris.packham  
#9 Posted : 06 June 2016 18:02:53(UTC)
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chris.packham

Yes. If the HSE inspector writes you a letter or does anything else that involves them in work this is chargeable. In addition, any subsequent follow up, e.g. a site visit, by ayone from HSE will be subject to FFI. In the case of a complex issue it can get expensive!

Chris
A Brown  
#10 Posted : 06 June 2016 20:39:25(UTC)
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A Brown

Hi Pikeman,
I'm afraid, yes, you've misunderstood. It has never been an either / or

The guidance we received when it was introduced was incredibly complex, but this was the most basic of the premise.

Recording it for major multi-dutyholder interventions was very complex!

I don't miss it (or HSE!)

Al
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