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JL  
#1 Posted : 12 January 2017 19:12:01(UTC)
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JL

We have had a debate at work with some of our drainage contractors who are saying that CDM 2015 does not apply to high pressure water jetting for drainage work investigations.

The point of debate hinges on the CDM 2015 definition of construction, part of it being “the construction, alteration, conversion, fitting out, commissioning, renovation, repair,upkeep, redecoration or other maintenance (including cleaning which involves the use of Water or an abrasive at high pressure, or the use of corrosive or toxic substances),

Because it is referring to water at high pressure as a maintenance task and not as an investigation procedure they are assuming CDM does not apply.

Is this correct?, many different opinions from our side so I’m looking for some impartial advice  

Centurion  
#2 Posted : 12 January 2017 19:43:10(UTC)
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Centurion

Just to clarify things.

I assume that in your debate that you are trying to get your contractors to provide you with some covering documentation that they feel in not relevant or superfluous?

Is that the case and what would it be? 

Cheers

Andy

RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 13 January 2017 09:47:18(UTC)
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RayRapp

It's a tricky one, however if push came to shove I would classify the work comes under the ambit of CDM. My reasoning is simply that cleaning using high pressure water although part of the 'investigation' work,  cleaning per se is an integral aspect of the task, presumably to allow unfettered access for the camera or any other instrument. 

JL  
#4 Posted : 13 January 2017 13:16:40(UTC)
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JL

Andy

The debate centres around the question of whether a construction phase plane should be made for the investigation, most companies say no(and even more have never heard of it amazingly)
Centurion  
#5 Posted : 13 January 2017 13:31:20(UTC)
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Centurion

Hi James

I would say that all is required is a Site Specific Risk Assessment and Method Statement containing the location information,work details,client specifics and the mention of all parties involved. 

Cheers

Andy

Alfasev  
#6 Posted : 17 January 2017 09:07:43(UTC)
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Alfasev

CDM 2015 does apply to jetting a drain unless the task is
being carried out as part of construction works.


boblewis  
#7 Posted : 17 January 2017 14:16:57(UTC)
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boblewis

Originally Posted by: Alfasev Go to Quoted Post

CDM 2015 does apply to jetting a drain unless the task is
being carried out as part of construction works


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RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 17 January 2017 14:25:44(UTC)
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RayRapp

Bob, I think the poster meant to say...'as part of investigation works'.

boblewis  
#9 Posted : 17 January 2017 20:08:20(UTC)
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boblewis

Originally Posted by: RayRapp Go to Quoted Post

Bob, I think the poster meant to say...'as part of investigation works'.


Or it could that CDM does NOT apply unless,,,,,,

My psychedelic powers are waning:-)

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