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Hi all, I've just come out of a meeting with our in-house OH provider, who has advised us we need to take action to review our systems with respect to noise induced hearing loss as the UK RIDDOR reporting criteria will be changing shortly. My question to the forum is - does anyone have an inside track on this - is it occupational health led, as I've not seen anything on the HSE website on the subject?
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H&S regulations traditionally only change in October or April of each year, so it would be surprising if any change to RIDDOR was about to happen.
Edited by user 14 November 2023 13:39:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Kate H&S regulations traditionally only change in October or April of each year, so it would be surprising if any change to RIDDOR was about to happen.
I wasn't sure if this was still the case as there have been so many changes in Govenment since it was originally instigated. From what I understand, this appears to be more about clinical reporting criteria rather than regulatory change, which might also explain the lack of HSE information.
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But noise-induced hearing loss is not a reportable disease under RIDDOR in the first place, so no amount of changes to clinical criteria could affect the reporting of it without a change to RIDDOR itself.
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Originally Posted by: Kate But noise-induced hearing loss is not a reportable disease under RIDDOR in the first place, so no amount of changes to clinical criteria could affect the reporting of it without a change to RIDDOR itself.
Good point, well made.
On the flip side I've found a SOM document which is a position statement on NIHL referrals to OH Physicians:
https://www.som.org.uk/s...ance_Guidance_May_23.pdf
I wonder if we are talking at crossed purposes? Edited by user 14 November 2023 16:15:22(UTC)
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Hi Yossarian Going back to the original question, I can't see much prospect of the current deregulatory minded Government proposing to widen the scope of RIDDOR reportable (or recordable) events. ....and if they were so minded, we could expect an HSE Consultative Document well in advance of any changes, not least to enable comment (DM etc outrage!!) on the burden on business and such like.
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I do understand that NIHL will be a focus for the HSE in 2024 and there may be some increased requirement for referals but do not see any link with RIDDOR.
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Originally Posted by: TripleS65# I do understand that NIHL will be a focus for the HSE in 2024 and there may be some increased requirement for referals but do not see any link with RIDDOR.
That's useful, I think the confusion was beteween the terms "referrals" and "RIDDOR reporting" with us asking what the former meant and them not understanding the difference.
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The questioner asked if occupational hearing loss would become reportable under RIDDOR. The answer was essentially the government would “consider” this as part of a review of RIDDOR in September 2023. The technical term for this is “kicking the can down the road”. The question was asked 2 years and 2 prime ministers ago. We still had a Queen and a bag chips and scraps cost less than a fiver. Like Peter said this is not going to happen, at least under the current government.
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Hi Yossarian
Did you enquire of your OH provider as to the source of the info?
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Mike
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Originally Posted by: MikeKelly Hi Yossarian
Did you enquire of your OH provider as to the source of the info?
regards
Mike
Mike, my understanding is currently:
Society of Occupational Medicine issued a position statement (which I linked previously) that a 'notch' in the audiogram" at the frequencies of 3000, 4000, or 6000 Hz with recovery at 8000 Hz" is to be used for NIHL referral criteria to an appropriately qualified doctor. Our OH team has alerted us that anyone sending staff through for medicals etc, may see an increase in NIHL referrals and as such we should be aware. Finally there was a confusion between the term 'referral' and ' RIDDOR reportable' during the conversation, which this forum has helped clear up. Edited at by user 17 November 2023 09:44:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RVThompson
Thanks for this information and your subsequent post, even if it (as subsequently pointed out) is ancient history now!
We have used the whole review exercise as a helpful reminder to our managers that they can't just offer ear defenders and OH referrals, but need to control the issue at source.
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