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LATCHY  
#1 Posted : 15 September 2011 17:31:12(UTC)
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LATCHY

Can anyone tell me which of these two diplomas are considered to be the best course of study by potential employers? I asked this question a while ago and I have received conflicting views from a wide variety of people.Which will give the best skill set to help career wise?
Betta Spenden  
#2 Posted : 15 September 2011 19:49:26(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

NEBOSH…………

No seriously it is NEBOSH. Many will rant and rave about how wrong I am, how there are more options than NEBOSH blah, blah, blah. I think “conflicting views” on the subject is an understatement.

Look at it this way. A bloke down the pub once told me that, once upon a time in New York, a young lady worked in a hotel. She cleaned rooms and she was not very good at sweeping up feathers etc from carpets and she was threatened with the sack, oh dear…. So she attached a desk fan to a pillow case and fashioned an inlet funnel system to some pipes. Hey presto the vacuum cleaner was thus invented. Sadly she did not patent the idea, someone else had a similar idea and that boys and girls is why a vacuum cleaner is often called a Hoover and not a Miss Miggins.

NEBOSH are the “Hoovers” of the H/S world, they may not be the first in the field however coma it’s a globally recognised brand name with a well respected qualification. You say Dip-NEBOSH and people sit up and pay attention, you say Dip-outermongolia and people say what the?

Read the adverts, some employers just ask for “NEBOSH” qualified staff, full stop. Sure the argument is that maybe they need educating, but, the answer to your question remains “NEBOSH” every time.

OK it’s hard and you gotta really want it, but it’s well worth it when you get there.

Good hunting and tight lines, my friend.
Guru  
#3 Posted : 15 September 2011 20:07:19(UTC)
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Guru

I dont know too much about the TUC Diploma, but reading up on their promotional leaflet for the course it states 'The TUC Diploma in occupational health and safety at OCN level 3 is accredited to meet the academic requirement for safety technician (Tech IOSH) grade.

The NEBOSH Certificate is pitched at this level. Given the choice of both, the NEBOSH Diploma is the way to go.
rockybalboa  
#4 Posted : 16 September 2011 08:46:35(UTC)
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rockybalboa

Betta Spenden wrote:


You say Dip-NEBOSH and people sit up and pay attention, you say Dip-outermongolia and people say what the?

Good hunting and tight lines, my friend.



Those two quotes made my day, cheers Betta Spenden, nice post and thumbs up.
kdrum  
#5 Posted : 16 September 2011 10:32:17(UTC)
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kdrum

Latchy I would echo Betta's advice NEBOSH is what employers look for, although sure many dont actually know what it is but when they think H&S Qualification - NEBOSH Diploma is what they have heard of.

It is hard going but worth it in the end, or at least will be for me if the Unit D I submitted 2 weeks ago makes the grade.

What ever route you chose good luck!
lwthesm  
#6 Posted : 16 September 2011 11:05:27(UTC)
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lwthesm

Latchy,
In all honesty the only qualification employers really recognise or have ever heard of is NEBOSH. It's a tough slog, but yes it is worth it.

kdrum.
Fingers crossed for your Unit D, the final hurdle!! Good luck.
jarsmith83  
#7 Posted : 16 September 2011 11:10:23(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Personally,

I would choose neither of the previous mentioned courses. if you would like something that will stand out, i would look at doing a Degree in the subject. I know what you are thinking, a degree costs £££. In reality, degree in Occupational Health and Safety can be completed through distance learning, and are actually on par with the NEBOSH Diploma, in terms of costs.

It is true that many employers are asking for a NEBOSH Diploma but, if you read closely, this is being asked as a minimum. The other criteria is a relevant degree in the given subject, in which the advert is specifying, or just a degree in general.

If you have a degree in Occupational Safety and Health, this in turn, will make you stand out from the crowd. Back this up with an NVQ level 4 and you will be ticking both, practical, and theoretical requirements.

This is just my view on the subject.
smart  
#8 Posted : 17 September 2011 15:49:23(UTC)
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smart

Once again i would agree with all the comments that people have said about Nebosh etc , because i have my Nebosh Diploma and also my AIEMA in Environmental management and in November will be doing my Nebosh Diploma in Environmental Management. I have a number of years experience in the Health and Safety field and in managing manufacturing teams and been with the same company for 30 yrs but believe me its still" not what you know but who you know" and do you play golf with the bosses.
Betta Spenden  
#9 Posted : 17 September 2011 20:07:33(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

jarsmith83 wrote:
Personally,

other criteria is a relevant degree in the given subject, in which the advert is specifying, or just a degree in general.

If you have a degree in Occupational Safety and Health, this in turn, will make you stand out from the crowd. Back this up with an NVQ level 4 and you will be ticking both, practical, and theoretical requirements.



A good point, but if the job requires a specific degree in the specific subject such as for example engineering then a specific degree is required in engineering and a degree in OHS is not going to count as it will be in the wrong subject. Phew, deep breath.

Many employers who ask for a degree in OHS actually ask for degree or equivalant. Not wanting to start the old "is my level 6 diploma the same as a degree" bun fight (again, again). The NEBOSH Dip is a level 6 qualification and thus set at the same academic level as a degree, so it "sort of" meets the criteria for “equivalent.”
jarsmith83  
#10 Posted : 18 September 2011 12:19:29(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Betta Spenden wrote:
jarsmith83 wrote:
Personally,

other criteria is a relevant degree in the given subject, in which the advert is specifying, or just a degree in general.

If you have a degree in Occupational Safety and Health, this in turn, will make you stand out from the crowd. Back this up with an NVQ level 4 and you will be ticking both, practical, and theoretical requirements.



A good point, but if the job requires a specific degree in the specific subject such as for example engineering then a specific degree is required in engineering and a degree in OHS is not going to count as it will be in the wrong subject. Phew, deep breath.

Many employers who ask for a degree in OHS actually ask for degree or equivalant. Not wanting to start the old "is my level 6 diploma the same as a degree" bun fight (again, again). The NEBOSH Dip is a level 6 qualification and thus set at the same academic level as a degree, so it "sort of" meets the criteria for “equivalent.”


Yep, I totally understand where you are coming from. Its a difficult discussion to have on a forum, it`s something that really requires a face to face discussion. What I would highlight though, is that I have completed NEBOSH, and the NVQ Level 4, now I am looking to complete an environmental qualification. I have decided to do distance learning degree, title of the degree is: Environmental, Safety, and Health Management. I have decided this option because when you apply for jobs, they often ask for, degree level qualification. They are now asking for, as a minimum, AIEMA cert, so I thought, whats the point of doing a NEBOSH Environmental Dip, when I can have an actual degree, with environmental management included in its course contents to a level 6 any way.
Betta Spenden  
#11 Posted : 18 September 2011 18:44:52(UTC)
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Betta Spenden



distance learning degree, title of the degree is: Environmental, Safety, and Health Management.


I likes the sound of that one and wouldn't mind a piece of that action me-sen. I am always looking to expand my port of folio. Appologies to the original poster for hijacking the threat but coma, who is the degree with?
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