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JHF  
#1 Posted : 27 June 2017 09:00:36(UTC)
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JHF

Hi all, after some thoughts on the use of vehicle proximity sensors on loading shovels, we have a number of pedestrians working close-by - risk of contact. HSE guidance (INDG199 - rev2) dosnt mention sensors at all, pushing for seperate routes; failing that, use of barriers and signage. THANKS.

Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 27 June 2017 09:24:08(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

How do you envisage that working to ensure safety?

Not compliant with heirarchy of control.

JHF  
#3 Posted : 27 June 2017 09:45:05(UTC)
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JHF

Hi Ron, not sure what you`re saying. Dont have a problem with the HSE guidance, dont realy want to go to the expence of sensors / relying on them as a control measure etc. 

Chris c  
#4 Posted : 27 June 2017 18:56:50(UTC)
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Chris c

JFH

proximity sensors are a nice to have but  thats as far as they go you should not rely on these but have a safe system of work inplace  to reduce the risk of injury  or damage 

JHF  
#5 Posted : 27 June 2017 19:09:31(UTC)
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JHF

Hi - agree. As per first post (proper) segregation is first priority / best option.

Bigmac1  
#6 Posted : 28 June 2017 17:02:40(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Segregate, segregate and segregate

Stuart Smiles  
#7 Posted : 29 June 2017 20:16:39(UTC)
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Stuart Smiles

Hi, 

ref sensors, 

qnjac guidance on sensors is available - do a google and you'll find a presentation and some minutes. 

http://www.safequarry.com/qnjac.aspx 

also have a look on the safe quarry site, there was some new guidance released a few weeks ago ref waste sites, keeping people seperate, and training/toolbox talks. 

www.safequarry.co.uk

http://qnjac.co.uk/media/1860/guide-to-pedestrian-safety-v3-q12017.pdf 

there is an embedded powerpoint presentation on page 12:

http://www.qnjac.co.uk/media/1859/qnjac-follow-our-footsteps-tbt-v3.pptx 

for HSE guidance, it's probably better to look at HSG 136 for workplace transport, as a previous poster said, segregation is the mantra. There's also a checklist 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/wtchk1.pdf 

and for more detail, the inspector pack 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/fod/inspect/transport.pdf 

there are also revisions and testing criteria for visibility. 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/quarries/hardtarget/visibility.htm 

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