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Should a company health and safety policy have a particular section that is neither relevant nor up to date (such as referring to CDM 2007 rather than CDM 2015) does this void the entire H&S policy or just that particular section in the arrangements, which leads me asking how often would the H&S policy be bought up for scrutiny in the courts (rather than the specific written safe systems of work)
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I think a Court would presecute a particular accident cause, lack of a safe system of work, for example and then take into account that h&s management is likely to be poor, citing an out of date policy etc. Rather than prosecute for an out of date policy. The legal requirment is to have a h&s policy, not how good it is.
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Is the policy, simply referncing a superceeded document? That seems like it would be relatively minor, in the scheme of things and an easy thing to 'update'?
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I agree with Ian. A poor or out of date H&S policy may be a sign that H&S management is poor or that no one cares, but isn't itself void or a breach of legislation.
If I was auditing and saw that type of outdated reference, it would prompt me to ask a lot more questions and I imagine the same would be true for an inspector.
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It's not an exam it’s a working document. You don’t get marks for spelling and style. All that matters is that you identify suitable controls and make sure that they are being applied. Most HSE inspectors I have come across look at the policies etc last and look at what is happening on the shop floor first.
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If quoting an out of date document in a policy completely invalidated it then 99.9% of all H&S policies would be totally invalidated because it is almost certain that you will miss one reference somewhere
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JL I doubt if an out of date refernce is a cause for concern, but if there are a lot of old refernces or the document has clearly been cut and paste or lifted from elsewhere ( incorrect addressess, refernces to procedures not undertaken, surprising dates etc are a giveaway) then I think any auditor oe inspector would be looking more closely at other things.
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