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Posted By John Mackessack
I am becoming increasingly bemused and dismayed (in equal measure) at the loss of advertising capability on this forum.
The reason, well, I have just spent the last 30 minutes trawling through postings from people who are mustard-keen to get experience in this profession, but can't find a suitable role.
The strange paradox is that I cannot advertise a perfect position (that I may or may not have) for such a person.
I am not a recruitment agency touting my wares for free, but a practitioner working for a real company, in the real world, trying to make a real profit, who may be in a position to offer a part-qualified person a year's work (in a brilliant environment) as an opportunity to get started for real!!
I suppose I could advertise this in SHP or via an agency, but this will take an age and eat into the limited budget available - money that'd be better off in someone's salary than in a 'stripey shirts' commission.
Is there no way the new rule can be adjusted to allow fully-paid up IOSH members to try and nurture some new talent and/or let us members of the gang help each other out?
I will of course be able to advertise any role (I might or might not have) through local branch meetings, but most of the attendees already have jobs or are too senior!
How long before this posting gets 'moderated' I wonder ;-)
Yours,
John
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Posted By JAI
I agree john we should change the name of the careers forum to careers support forum and let people offer positions that would enable others to gain valuable experience.
Jai
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Posted By b.devenney
It is just as hard looking over the fence, when employers wish you had more experiance or higher qualifications?
Regards
Brian
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Posted By Alan Hewett
Not the same as being able to post any potential vacancies on the careers forum but,
If you did have a vacancy that you needed to fill and saw a posting on the careers forum from someone who may appear to be suited to that role you could email them direct with details of where the vacancy was being advertised.
Although this would depend on them having made thier email address visible.
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Posted By AlB
If you did have a position that you would not be able to advertise on this forum, whee would this position be based and in what industry. If you had such a position?
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Posted By AlB
Obviously, "whee" should have read "where". But as there is no job advertised, and as there is no need for me to be professional in my posting, then it doesn't matter.
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Posted By Paul Coyles
Striped Shirt Commission ???
When are employers going to realise that some agencies actually provide a very valuable service?
Next you will be calling them double glazing salesmen !!
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Posted By John Mackessack
Yes, there are some VERY GOOD specialist EHS agencies out there, and they know who they are. If I was looking for a new challenge I would contact them too, without hesitation.
However, my (not inconsiderable) personal experience is that there is some utter crap out there too. Usually when you are approached by one by phone, 5 years after (!) you'd eventually managed to unsubscribe from the clutches of their pointless websites, you can tell within minutes that they haven't got a clue....."Oh, my client needs someone who's a corporate member of EYEWASH wiv a NEWOSH cerfiticate in elfinsafety and you've only got a diploma/degree/NVQ (etc etc), sorry."
So please excuse my 'stripey-shirt' slur. The good guys will understand, I'm sure.
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Posted By John Mackessack
AIB, to answer your query,
Hypothetically, if it was allowable to post an opportunity, it would (perhaps, probably, maybe) be in the south of England, in the automotive sector, perhaps.
John
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Posted By LJA
South of England and Automotive sector? Gosh I thought I was on my own!
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Posted By Paul
Love The South'. *nods.. Ah well... another role I may or may not have missed out on beacuse I won't get to see it advertised here in East Anglia.
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt
John
Does a company car come with the hypothetical position ;D
Jeff
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Posted By John Mackessack
Jeff,
If I had a penny for every time..........
John
p.s. I'm off - have a good weekend!
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt
Sorry John I did it for pure badness. Mate used to work for RR Engines and it really narked him too.
Have a good weekend
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Posted By JM82
Agree about SOME of the Agencies being good.
People may have had bad experiences but don't tar us all with the same brush!
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Posted By AlB
Ah, John.
It's a good job that it's all hypothetical, otherwise I'd be disappointed that it would be in the South as I would be, hypothetically, be looking in the North West.
:)
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Posted By Dave Anders
Hypothetically, I may have the same scenario and a company car may or may not be available....
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Posted By Clairey O
It's a shame it hypothetical, as I'm in the right part of the south and looking! oh well the search continues.
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Posted By Whojoe
If the hypothetical scenario were to exist, what sector would it be in and what car would it be?
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Posted By Whojoe
Sorry, the last hypothetical posting was aimed at Dave Anders..
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Posted By Dave Anders
If a position was to exist it may or may not be in construction, but i am willing to look at your imaginary CVs anyway
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Posted By Whojoe
Nice one. Imaginary CV will sent shortly, hypothetical thanks in anticipation...
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Posted By Paul
Did you know that 'hypothetical' is an anagram of
'Healthy topic' ?? Not a lot of people know that.
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze All, The above thread has caused a vast amount of hypothetical hyperventilation amongst the moderators and web-team. Whilst we are amazed at the ingenuity and originality of the posters, we have now formulated the hypothesis that advertising has in fact occurred and this is a very real breach of AUG 2. The thread has therefore been locked. Now for the scripted bit: Please use the jobs section in www.shponline.co.uk, the website of the official IOSH magazine, SHP. Anyone wishing to advertise online can do so at SHP. For more information, please contact Bryn McGeever on +44(0)20 7560 4227.
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