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#1 Posted : 05 January 2007 13:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby'
to all those who ever wondered/argued or otherwise on the levels of pay related to qualification...have a look at the job spec for a H&S Assistant in a LA in Yorkshire...they want a lot for not a lot...and I thought I was badly paid! Indeed when my current job was originally advertised 2 years ago, many a regular contributor stated that they would not get out of bed for the remuneration...for this particular LA, I wouldn't even set the alarm clock!

When will some folk realise the value in relation to other professions...?

Philby'
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#2 Posted : 05 January 2007 13:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By GSP
Harrogate LA??

18 - 24k - Assistant H&S Advisor ?

GradIOSH Required

Perfect for a graduate, and they say they will pay and support to chartered status.

Cant see much wrong with it myself? A Graduate who had just received GradIOSH status and has 1 year work in industry would be happy with that i would say?

Unless you are seeing one I'm not
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#3 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Baldwin
Completely agree, as an employer I know of plenty of Graduates with one years experience who would be extremely grateful for just a job!!
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#4 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby'
...and the statement in the spec...

'The post holder is required to have attained Graduate Membership of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health, and be working towards Chartered Membership, or be a Chartered Member of the Institution.'

There are other positions out there that are infinitely better paid and with better prospects....I can see only one reason for applying, get experience and move on...for those with experience, GradIOSH and Chartered, will look elsewhere

Philby'
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#5 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Baldwin
Bear in mind LA pay is historically poor but reliant on the fringe benefits etc..

I would understand your if your were talking about the private sector, but with fringe benefits, training courses all provided with LA employment I'm sure quite a few would set their alarm !!
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#6 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby'
Craig,

I speak from an LA point of view, this statement is of concern to many,

'(subject to Single Status job evaluation)'

bearing in mind our pension rights are already being eroded and job security is a thing of the past

I maintain they want a lot for not a lot, if the starting salary was SO1-SO2 then fair comment, SO1 for newcomers, SO2 for those with more experience/qualification/membership status...then move on!

Philby'
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#7 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By GSP
Show me a graduate position that is infinitely better paid....that isnt in london (which makes it not worthwhile at all)
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#8 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby'
It isn't just asking for graduates...it says 'or'

'working towards Chartered Membership, or be a Chartered Member of the Institution'

there are plenty of Vacancies out there for CMIOSH with better remuneration and benefits outside London and, as stated previously, LA's are becoming more like the 'real world' ie no perceived fringe benefits...

we can agree to disagree...my locals just put up beer ten pence a pint, and the LA controlled multi-storey has gone up 20p a day so I'm asking for a regrade to reflect,

have a good weekend

Philby'
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#9 Posted : 05 January 2007 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By ITK CMIOSH
Market forces and all that, (too many qualifiers + low numbers of jobs = low salaries) however I bet they don't go short of applicants.

I would have jumped at this sort of opportunity when first starting out.

Great start for newbies, contributory pension, flexible working, generous holidays, 9 to 5 etc etc).

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#10 Posted : 05 January 2007 15:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By I McDonald
Philby

sorry to hear the beers gone up 10p

With sympathy
Ian
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#11 Posted : 21 January 2007 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Joe Hardiment
Good start for a newbie or an oldie wanting to break in to the health and safety game.

Any one applying go for it, invaluable experience and not a bad wage.
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#12 Posted : 22 January 2007 09:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By cara
That sounds very reasonable to me!! When I first graduated - 4 years ago I was on less than £12,000 as a Safety, health and environmental assistant!
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