Posted By John Fraser
CFT

So have I.

John

Posted By Swis
But employers look at applicant’s records such as qualifications, memberships, experience etc in order to make their evaluations of someone’s competence. No-one and NO-ONE has the tendency to rightly guess someone’s competency level by just looking at their face. Not to forget that most employers are unaware of H&S knowledge themselves.

Posted By Jim Walker
I'd agree with Alex.
Most companies do not need anything more.
Its also an essential first step on the ladder to further things.

Just look at who NEBOSH say the NGC is aimed at.

The NGC has never (by NEBOSH) been claimed as a qualification for H&S professionals.

Posted By andymak
Hmmmmm, so the debate still rages!

As previously said I am more than happy to upskill although with the following skills and experience:

NRSWA Supervisor,
Legionella Technician,
Ladder inspector,
DSE assessor,
F&R trained fire risk assessor,
Workplace first aider,
experienced auditor,
behavioural safety trainer,
risk assessment, and experience of H&S management in a national, regional and departmental capacity.

I am not really sure what other skills would be useful. If someone can advise I would appreciate it.
I want to be CMIOSH, I have oodles of experience, I have both public and private sector experience.

All I need is a job now to enable me to afford to do a higher qualification!

Posted By Alexander Falconer
Toe

Thanks for your clarification, the picture all becomes that much clearer.

This is probably another prime example where beaurocracy should have been overruled and common sense prevailed.

Other chartered institutions seem to take each issue on its own merits, and consider the decision appropriate to the situation.

Once again, this is also another member who would have benefitted from achieving CMIOSH by the mature candidate route

This has previously been discussed to a death and I do not wish to distract from the original question

http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...iew&forum=2&thread=18407

As previous posters state, there are many holders of the NGC with many years experience that will be considered over those who have Diploma's. Again there seems to be a need to develop an additional CMIOSH route without devaluing the existing routes to CMIOSH.

Andymak, I am sure that something will happen, keep plugging away

Alex

Posted By andymak
Am now starting to get the occassional enquiry about possible short term work, but still nothing solid, as most jobs still seem to want Dip, I am noticing more jobs are looking for a degree as desirable as well as the dip, which I find a bit worrying!

Posted By Blue
Andy. Firstly can I say congrats on your new baby daughter and enjoy every minute cos they grow up too fast. If anything positive comes out of this it will be that the period you are out of work is at a time when your family needs you most and your relationship with your daughter gets stronger each day.

Let me see if I can help. I have interviewed many candidates recently and we don’t require the NEBOSH Diploma. CFT is right (as always) in that competence is much more important than a qualification, and the Management Regs (7) require this. So a competent person should win over a less competent person with a Diploma or Degree. However, many companies are unaware of the regulations and their ignorance of the requirements is clear in that many just want a highly qualified candidate. The amount of persons I have not taken on despite being GradIOSH, CMIOSH, etc is unreal. Their interviews went bad and knowledge a bit shaky.

You say you come across well at interview, so no problems there. Getting in front of the boss / HR manager can be tough though. If I were to offer some advice, self fund the Diploma. I know it can be expensive, but many providers will allow you to pay by interest free instalments. Your knowledge will greatly increase with the study and employers will realise you are committed. They will also have a Diploma qualified staff member eventually without having to pay for one at that level from the outset. The other bonus for employers is that you are not asking them to fund your CPD (just now). I would not worry about a Degree being required though – just move onto the next job.

TOE - FLT license do not require to be refreshed. Guidance tells us that between 3-5 years is the recommended timeframe, but not compulsory (ie – not required.) 5 years is the timeframe for passing the Diploma in full – A, B, C, and D.

I am willing to look at your CV though and give comments. Cochrane931@btinternet.com Most of the time, recruitment companies mess about with it and they can all look very similar when they arrive on the desk.

Best of luck Andy.

Posted By andymak
Hi Blue and Naveen,
Thanks for your comments, as I have said before on this thread, I am in a bit of a catch 22 situation with the diploma at the moment.

It would seem I need the dip to get a job paying enough for me to self fund the dip!

If the potential temp work turns out to be more then at least I could make a start, but at the moment the DWP doesn't pay enough for me to do it even with interest free payments.

Blue, I will be in touch.