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Posted By Paul Craythorne
Hi Everyone,
My boss has asked me to track down companies within the UK who operate to 'World Class' in H&S management practices in order that we may pay them a visit to get ideas etc.
Apart from obvious ones like Du Pont, does anyone work for or know of any such companies that would be willing to share their experience.
Regards,
Paul Craythorne
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Posted By Bill Fisher
Paul
Try BNFL at Sellafield
Bill
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Try BP as they follow and have adapted many Dupont systems. I also have Peter McKie's, former MD Dupont, e-mail address and can supply this separately if required.
Bob
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Posted By Mark Large
Was that BNFL suggestion genuine?
Perhaps they have changed but I still remember a news report which stated they regularly went against their own saftey systems.
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Posted By Ian Waldram
What follows are personal impressions, passed on in the spirit you asked - i.e. possible places to make contact and visit. I'm sure there are many others just as good with whom I have had no personal contact.
I endorse what is said about BP. From evidence at Ladbroke Grove Inquiry, Eurotunnel are pretty good, also London Underground. The various ICI heritage companies have high quality global systems, ABB are also strong. From limited evidence, I think Diageo (ex-Guinness) would be worth a look - especially on health promotion, treatment and rehabilitation. BA (and many other airlines) are good on training and human factors, teamwork, etc. in relation to flight safety (not sure about ground-based activities) and Dept. Transport Air Accident Investigation Branch are world-class on accident investigation. Esso Fawley have an excellent record, have pioneered great training for supervisors. BAA have consistent risk identification processes from top to bottom (or vice versa!) of their organisation.
If your MD wants some personal exposure, he should be at the HSC-organised Stakeholder Conference at Westminster on 29th May.
Good luck in your search.
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Posted By Paul Craythorne
Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Paul
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Posted By Ashley Williams
Why are people picking on BNFL? So they have mad a few cock-ups resulting in 2 prosecutions. To be honest so have Du Pont companies like this example taken from the HSE Prosecutions Database : -
Du Pont Automotive Coatings (U.K.) Ltd
Summary
PR following fatal accident involving fire during cleaning of paint mixing tank. Risk assessment not suitable and safe system of work not used. Guilty plea by Defendant in Magerstrates Court. Sent to Crown Court for sentence which was £12,500 on each case plus full costs.
Offence Date 15/06/98
Total Fine £25,000.00 Total Costs Awarded to HSE £19,901.00
Does this mean that Du Ponts safety systems are twice as good or only half as bad as BNFL?
Ashley
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
The real problem is that people have accidents and at root it is the actions, or lack of, by people that cause around 90% of accidents. The best system and culture in the world is still not going to eliminate everything. Every action we take is both safe and unsafe at one and the same time.
The proposition of World Class H&S practice is that a change in the culture to what is a recognition of 'interdependency' can create a step change in the actions of people. This culture is contrasted to the Dependent where people are told to follow rules they may not understand and Independent where each individual follows the rules and understands the reasons for their existence. The Interdependent position recognises that we are all not simply looking out for ourselves but others. This is extended to safety off the job not just on it. Another characteristic is the expectation of zero accidents as opposed to a target, or hope!!Beneath all of this is the work of the Brazilian education theorist P. Freire who used the terms - Banking and Independent to describe the cultures of control and liberated for interdependency.
In summation the having of an accident does not negate world class if it is used fully as a learning experience.
Bob
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