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Posted By Richard Webber
Did I hear the news correctly this evening ?
Did they tell us that a Football stadium was being developed close to a chemical plant which produces/utilizes significant quantities of ........something (Chlorine ?).
And that as a result the Club has been obliged to design chemical shelters within the football ground in case of accidental release ?.
It sounds implausible, but could be an interesting subject for a design risk assessment exercise !
"Planning supervision, Anyone?"
Richard
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Posted By Smurfer
About ten years ago i was involved in a study modeling the dispersion of an accidental ethylene oxide release from a plant adjacent to a proposed football stadium. The stadium had open corners and wwe reckoned this was conducive to lettin gthe chemical roll into the ground, slowly filling the stadium with toxic gas. The main recommendation was to fill in the corners - didn't happen until five years after the ground was built!
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Posted By Andy Petrie
Would that be the Riverside stadium perchance?
There is no way that a stadium can provide chemical shelters for 30,000+. You simply have to rely on the fact that the chemical works is managed correctly (i.e. COMAH etc.)
With regards to your example, a release from the nearby chemical works is going to be of such a magnitude that 'filling in the corners' would provide little, if any protection.
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Posted By Stewart Dean
Think the ground in question is the TRAINING ground that Everton FC are proposing to build. There will not be as great a crowd present there than would be at Goodison Pk for their competitive games.
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Posted By Mark J. Jones
I hope I am allowed a rather flippant response on a Friday afternoon:
Crowds will not be a significant issue if it involves West Ham United!
The changing room would be an ideal chemical shelter.
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Posted By Nick House
Hmm. Chemical plant next to Everton's training ground. Perhaps chemical saturation may make them play better??
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Posted By Garry Campbell
Could be the new stadium currently being built by Falkirk Football Club, between Falkirk and Grangemouth. Apparently, the site of the new stadium is in the "blast zone" of Avecia? Sygenta? Zeneca? or whatever they call the old ICI now. Really has not been a good year for Falkirk FC, first they are refused entry to the Scottish Premier League because they do not have a 10,000 all seater stadium and then it is decided to build the new stadium in an area which is likely to be taken out if something goes wrong at Avecia? Syng... etc....etc...
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Posted By Richard Webber
Would it be a case of ".....they think its all over..........IT IS NOW !" ?
How are the risks balanced in this type of commercial development ? Does the designer have to consider the prohibitive cost of viable land within the risk assessment?
Any thoughts?
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