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#1 Posted : 30 January 2007 14:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By LCM
The guidance for CDM 2007 was due out in January with the legislation coming into force in April. I have just been on the phone to HSE books (as they are advertising the guidance on their website) who informed me it won't be available until March/April.

Does anyone know about this delay?
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#2 Posted : 30 January 2007 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
Sorry to jump on your thread LCM but I have to ask a question here!

Further to the delay does anyone know if the proposed ACOP on the web can be trusted?

I need to know as I am preparing some training for Designers who are now working on projects which will be covered by the new CDM 07 regs.

I'm sure there will be many others out there in the same position?
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#3 Posted : 30 January 2007 15:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By MAK
this is the latest upate from the HSE CDM discussion group:

"Dear Discussion group member

There have been a number of messages asking for the final draft of the
ACOP. It had been the intention , as indicated in a previous message and
in the introduction pages to this site to post the final draft.

The copies of the ACOP and Regs agreed by the Commission are available. (these are ones that have been posted already dated october 2006)
The current draft submitted for agreement by the Minister has been
editorially corrected and in few places more closely aligned to the
Regulations. It is however substantively unchanged.

A final decison is yet to be made on whether the ACOP will be free on the
web or as with all other HSE ACOPs a priced document . Until then I will
not be placing the final draft on this site"

The post was placed by Andrew East Construction Division HSE. unfortunately there has been extensive debate on the HSE website regarding actual date of release and much consternation that the final version is going to be made available, but to buy!

check out the site for further info.

MAK
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#4 Posted : 31 January 2007 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Just to let everybody know that Andrew East, HSE, has drawn back from the promise above but assures everybody that the draft sent to HSC and approved in October is substantially unaltered.

The issue seems to one of loss of revenue if the version before the minister is made availabel for download. The bean counters want every penny income.

Bob
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#5 Posted : 31 January 2007 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Brede
A suggestion has come forward on the HSE CDM website that IOSH may be accrediting a 3 day 'New CDM' course.

Clearly this would be a massive opportunity for IOSH as well as benchmarking such a course as one of a given standard from a Chartered Institute.

Can IOSH comment on this.
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#6 Posted : 01 February 2007 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Brede
The new ACOP is on the HSE website!

Commenting Andrew East of the HSE has said :-

Hopefully this will aid you all in developing a clear understanding of the requirements, objectives and any training plans you may have for CDM

I would draw your attention to Reg 45 on Civil Liability and Reg 46 on Fire, both of which have been slightly altered from the copy submitted to the Commission and posted on this site.

The ACOP at paragraphs around 52 and 53 have been slightly altered to make sure the ACOP aligned fully with the Regulations.
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#7 Posted : 02 February 2007 08:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By David O'Hara
I would appreciate it if someone can direct me to the new ACOP.

Thanks in Advance

David
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#8 Posted : 02 February 2007 10:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Judging by the comments on the CDM discussion forum even they cannot find the posted version. Still it may soon appear!!

Bob
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#9 Posted : 02 February 2007 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By David O'Hara
Thats what I was thinking........
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#10 Posted : 02 February 2007 12:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian
HSE web site publications they are selling the ACOP for £15.00 I've just ordered it.
Adrian
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#11 Posted : 02 February 2007 21:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By B J Mann
Draft Approved Code of Practice
Annex 6 to Paper HSC/06/54
Version 3 October 2006

http://www.hse.gov.uk/ab.../2006/171006/c54Ann6.pdf
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#12 Posted : 05 February 2007 10:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Brede
http://webcommunities.hs...006/view?objectId=124805

This is the link to the draft version published in February 2007.
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#13 Posted : 05 February 2007 11:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
Further Dave Breede's comments:

Will IOSH be running a course?

If Yes , I'll hold back from booking trainers who are advertising now.
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#14 Posted : 05 February 2007 11:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Just a note to say that you may need to join the CDM web community to get to the document. The link below gets you to the front page if you have any problems

http://webcommunities.hs.../group/cdm2006/grouphome

Happy reading

Bob
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#15 Posted : 06 February 2007 14:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By JEB
Just an update on the last posting, once you are registered (or if you already are) then from the "home" page go to "documents". The latest draft of the ACOP and Regs are now available, hopefully as they will be published, if the minister ever signs them.

JEB
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