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decimomal  
#1 Posted : 03 May 2010 10:31:57(UTC)
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decimomal

Multi storey car park adjacent to an office block is being demolished. Staff in the office block are complaining that the constant noise and vibration is causing them 'stress'

Any suggestions on how to address their concerns, given that Noise at Work Regs probably do not apply?

Cheers.
firesafety101  
#2 Posted : 03 May 2010 11:27:54(UTC)
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firesafety101

Why do the noise at work regs not apply? Surely if the level is so high that other persons are suffering the level must be too high on the site?

Have assessments been made on and off site with readings recorded?

There is a duty to protect the public - why not invite the HSE in to have a look?

stephendclarke  
#3 Posted : 03 May 2010 13:26:16(UTC)
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stephendclarke

Hi,
Something tells me that if the noise is 5dB above background then it constitutes a nuisance but following documents from defra and environment agency might help especially that from defra:

http://www.defra.gov.uk/...ent-localauthorities.pdf

http://www.ni-environment.gov.uk/ippc_h3_pt1.pdf

http://www.ni-environment.gov.uk/ippc_h3_pt2.pdf

Regards
Steve
stephendclarke  
#4 Posted : 03 May 2010 13:33:37(UTC)
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stephendclarke

Hi
forgot to mention there is a BS5228 Code of Practice for the Control of Noise on Construction and Open Sites I think Part 2 covers demolition.
Regards
Steve
stevegrimes  
#5 Posted : 03 May 2010 14:15:00(UTC)
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stevegrimes

looks like anice little earner for the ambulance chasers here

stress, right,the backpain of the new millenium
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 03 May 2010 21:13:10(UTC)
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Canopener

Yep kind of a tricky one. There MAY be a nuisnace depending on the times and levels but 'nuisance' isn't quite as straightforward as 5dB over ambient, but will also take into account a number of factors, such as (as I have already same) timeof the day, duration, BATNEEC etc. Let's be honest, it's pretty difficult to demolish something like you have described without some (considerable) degree of noise. I assume that the demolition of the building is nothing to do with you or your company, so yes I doubt NAW regs would apply to your employees in that respect. I see nothing in what you have said that would suggest to me that it would be either appropriate or necessary to contact the HSE or that it would be a particualry good use of their time.
firesafety101  
#7 Posted : 03 May 2010 21:40:52(UTC)
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firesafety101

Phil,

I haven't seen or heard of BATNEEC for ages - thanks for the reminder.
Ron Hunter  
#8 Posted : 03 May 2010 23:42:42(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The considerate contractor would have engaged with neighbours before starting the Project.
Nothing to stop the neighbour starting that dialogue now though. Local Planning/Building Control usually involves neighbourhood notification? In any event they will be able to confirm the conditions they applied to the works - including noise levels, timing of work, etc.
Steve SJP RM  
#9 Posted : 04 May 2010 13:41:56(UTC)
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Steve SJP RM

In my experience it was done at times that were planned, at break times, late evenings and saturdays. Let all know your plans which should have been done at pre construct meetings (letters to residents as Ron says) but as Phil said it is very hard to make no noise at all considering what you are doing and to minimise the noisey activities as much as is reasonable (and make sure the dust is kept to a minimum ) If you have a good sub-contractor they would have took all this into consideration, made all the issues identifiyable in the R.A and sufficient control measures ther of: Different mechanical equipment to normal, stuctural demo in areas away from office as per engineers reports etc...
bob youel  
#10 Posted : 04 May 2010 13:49:51(UTC)
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bob youel

I believe that BATNEEC is now BAT the NEEC has been dropped - please correct me if I am wrong

regards all and good advice has been given - as usual
JayJay  
#11 Posted : 04 May 2010 16:20:56(UTC)
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JayJay

Bob & Phil,

Are you two on the right topic ? I thought this one was for 'Demolition'.
JayJay  
#12 Posted : 04 May 2010 16:21:59(UTC)
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JayJay

Oops sorry Phil, i meant Chris ;-))
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