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StephenJF  
#1 Posted : 02 April 2019 12:38:22(UTC)
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StephenJF

Does anyone know of either a decision model or industry guidance to how many H&S persons an organsiation should have. The management regs only alude to having competent advice and wondered if there was anything for a high hazard organisation. My current employer has two qualified H&S persons with additional assistance from safety reps. Whilst I can produce an assessment, it would helpful if there is something out.

Elfin Davy 09  
#2 Posted : 02 April 2019 13:40:37(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

Without being flippant in any way, it's what the company can afford or what the company wants.  I've seen small companies with a Health and Safety department, and I've seen big companies (who SHOULD have a department) with a Health and Safety Manager, and nobody else.

You pays your money and you takes your choice....

A Kurdziel  
#3 Posted : 02 April 2019 13:51:06(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

This is really the how long is piece of string question!

  • It depends on the sector- purely office based business need fewer H&S bods than something like constructions or manufacturing etc
  • The risks that you manage-hazardous substances, radioactivity, mobile workforce,  young people on site, vulnerable people on site etc
  • How much H&S knowledge exists within the organisation already and how mature this knowledge is: you can be a well-established business where everybody knows what to do and how to do and one H&S competent person can just monitor the system or you might need an army of people to look after each department.

I have never heard of any magic formula to establish what is “right” for any particular organisation. I don’t even know how you could score each organisation.  

 

CptBeaky  
#4 Posted : 02 April 2019 13:56:06(UTC)
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CptBeaky

I would assume this is a "suitable and sufficient" case

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 02 April 2019 13:57:34(UTC)
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Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 02 April 2019 13:57:34(UTC)
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MrBrightside  
#7 Posted : 02 April 2019 14:42:02(UTC)
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MrBrightside

Technically a company doesn't require any H&S Managers, Officers, Advisors etc. They can either out-source it all or in a blue sky scenario all the Managers / Supervisors would be competent to do it as part of their day to day roles.

PIKEMAN  
#8 Posted : 02 April 2019 15:30:53(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

Some safety excellent organisations (eg, DuPont) have a LOW number of safety advisors. Instead, they put the emphaisis on Managers, Supervisors, Engineers and so on managing safety in their area. A great approach in my experience. I also believe that a good H&S Manager can do themself out of a job in 5 years - devolve reponsibility to the Managers, only requiring external support in expert areas, such as Dispersion Modelling, DSEAR etc. IMHO.

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