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Sandy501  
#1 Posted : 21 November 2019 17:35:07(UTC)
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Sandy501

If an employee has over 7 days off from work due to a back complaint due to a trip is this reportable?

Thanks in advance.
George_Young  
#2 Posted : 21 November 2019 18:59:11(UTC)
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George_Young

was the back complaint caused by a work activity or a personal activity?

If it was related to the indivduals work, then it will be an over 7 day injury, therefore reportable

Sandy501  
#3 Posted : 21 November 2019 20:01:49(UTC)
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Sandy501

Ok. Thanks. Work activity. Tripped at work.
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 21 November 2019 20:13:34(UTC)
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Roundtuit

No - not the location, was it work related not merely arriving at or leaving or walking between locations.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/riddor/key-definitions.htm#work-related

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 21 November 2019 20:13:34(UTC)
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Roundtuit

No - not the location, was it work related not merely arriving at or leaving or walking between locations.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/riddor/key-definitions.htm#work-related

Sandy501  
#6 Posted : 21 November 2019 21:47:28(UTC)
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Sandy501

He was walking from one work area (traffic marshal) to the passenger terminal for a break. .
Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 22 November 2019 09:10:52(UTC)
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Roundtuit

So we have established the IP was at their place of work heading to a rest break area.

Were they carrying anything heavy/bulky related to their employment duties e.g. moving a desk?

Was the roadway / footpath / kerb / steps in a good state of repair?

Was visibility good especially where artificial lighting sources are provided (e.g. it wasn't a stairwell with a blown bulb)?

Were the employees footwear (especially company supplied) in a good state of repair - laces tied, no split or worn soles?

Summarising - if they were walking along a flat well maintained roadway in broad daylight with correctly worn and well maintained safety footwear and "tripped" over their own feet the answer is no report required - NOT work related.

If their work supplied footwear was falling apart, if the lighting was bad due to lack of maintenance, if the roadway was uneven / broken kerbs / broken or loose grid covers due to traffic movement then there is a work related factor and it becomes reportable.

thanks 2 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
jmaclaughlin on 25/11/2019(UTC), jmaclaughlin on 25/11/2019(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 22 November 2019 09:10:52(UTC)
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Roundtuit

So we have established the IP was at their place of work heading to a rest break area.

Were they carrying anything heavy/bulky related to their employment duties e.g. moving a desk?

Was the roadway / footpath / kerb / steps in a good state of repair?

Was visibility good especially where artificial lighting sources are provided (e.g. it wasn't a stairwell with a blown bulb)?

Were the employees footwear (especially company supplied) in a good state of repair - laces tied, no split or worn soles?

Summarising - if they were walking along a flat well maintained roadway in broad daylight with correctly worn and well maintained safety footwear and "tripped" over their own feet the answer is no report required - NOT work related.

If their work supplied footwear was falling apart, if the lighting was bad due to lack of maintenance, if the roadway was uneven / broken kerbs / broken or loose grid covers due to traffic movement then there is a work related factor and it becomes reportable.

thanks 2 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
jmaclaughlin on 25/11/2019(UTC), jmaclaughlin on 25/11/2019(UTC)
Sandy501  
#9 Posted : 22 November 2019 09:20:00(UTC)
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Sandy501

Thank you.
PPE all adequate.
He could’ve used our pedestrian walkway to return to the terminal but instead took a shortcut which has kerbs, uneven ground. He has an existing back problem which was worsened by a cycling accident the previous weekend.
Until he returns to work, which will take him over the 7 day period I cannot define exactly how and where he fell. There were no witnesses
Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 22 November 2019 09:40:14(UTC)
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Roundtuit

So there is a pre-existing back injury.

There is then a cycling injury the week-end before.

They were taking an unofficial route of their own volition i.e. not using the designated walkway.

Not reportable......

....until you tell us it was a work supplied bike, during overtime at the terminal.

Roundtuit  
#11 Posted : 22 November 2019 09:40:14(UTC)
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Roundtuit

So there is a pre-existing back injury.

There is then a cycling injury the week-end before.

They were taking an unofficial route of their own volition i.e. not using the designated walkway.

Not reportable......

....until you tell us it was a work supplied bike, during overtime at the terminal.

Sandy501  
#12 Posted : 22 November 2019 18:14:38(UTC)
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Sandy501

No, cycle accident during time off from work. Thank you.
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