Safeguarding training advice please

Is it a legal requirement to have someone trained with in a private Ltd organisation if the following applies   

• Work experience placements with in an engineering environment less than 5 placements year (usually 1 week – 4 weeks )
• Apprentices, young workers who have left school ,under the age of 18 within an engineering environment (4 year apprenticeship)

Note

H&S Policies and controls are established and in place , the control measures are co-ordinated via HR department – schools – parents in line with policy guidance

Just trying to establish our legal position for safeguarding training      

Thanks  john  

thanks for the reply , I was under the same impression also 

regards 

Originally Posted by: J Sullivan

 

• Work experience placements with in an engineering environment less than 5 placements year (usually 1 week – 4 weeks )      

Are you asking in this part regarding a "Child" doing the work experience ? Where in the second part to mention "Young Person".

Peters Guidance seemed to be about young persons only.

Edited by user 13 June 2022 07:58:03(UTC)  | Reason: Seemed to have problems with the word young

The reason for me asking this question on one of our polices its says 

Safeguarding For Work Experience Placements POLICY 

Designated Child Protection Person  The HR department has received Safeguarding Training and has Designated Child Protection responsibilities.

During an audit of the policy i noted this as an observation in the corrective actions report . I dont  beleive its a leagl requirment. 

Ah, Brian - no help to the "auditor"!!

If you have X buildings with say 20 final exit points and you say that the apprentice will use the "nearest" one, if they decide to do a site visit as part of their "audit" they are going to have to check ALL 20 final exit point AND the various routes to those 20.

"Auditors" do have a habit of asking questions which they might regret having been given the correct answer - in this case "nearest".

P

indg364, (Young People and Work Experience),  makes no reference to any Safeguarding Officer/Person for Apprentices or Work Placement of Young Persons or those below MLSA, (Minimum School Leaving Age), on a Work Placement

Neither does the HSE Website.........

Probably because safeguarding itself is not directly within the remit of the HSE (just as Public Health issues should never have been)

https://www.gov.uk/topic/schools-colleges-childrens-services/safeguarding-children

Originally Posted by: Herb

There is no requirement to have safeguarding training for work experience.

Sorry Herb but organisation makeing placements with us are asking for it or refusing the placement - so there is a requirement - but i if you mean there is no Legal Requirement under HASAW I would agree.

I think it was Groucho Marx that said he would not want to be a member of any club that would actualy let him join (or something like that). Sometimes you have to abide by someone elses rules if you want to play the game.