Never ever use fall arrest with a MEWP, Please listen

ipaf is recognised externally, in the north east, where I an, it can be done with tyne and wear access, on the ipaf website is a list of who are trainers.

they can do in house or full, Personally i believe full with certificates is better with tests etc, however some have the perception of once they've got certificates recognised elsewhere they'll leave...  

get all of the things onsite in a day so that you can use whatever's available from hire companies and relevant to your site. 

tickets last 5 years, but not recognised by citb as they have their own, but most recognise as appropriate. also do harness training at same time and potentially face fit testing if need be or arco for face fit. 

Are some people confusing fall arrest with fall restraint?  Just askin'

I would endorse other people's comments regarding training providers though.

Originally Posted by: boblewis

People able train for the aspects you listed are not necessarily found in a single organisation.  IPAF for instance covers powered access while PASMA is aimed at alloy towers etc.  A single day to train a trainer is not therefore a viable option - you will need to look at a series of courses from various providers

Thanks Boblewis, Yes  i knew that he would have to attend seperate courses but i was hoping i could use just the one provider to offer all but ive found thats not the case :-( 

we are going to train by priority, MEWP 1st as we have more employees that requiring training for these then move down the list with the other courses.

i have been contacted by a training company today regarding my query (train an employee to become an instructor) and received this as a reply

'You could  go for what is used on sites i.e. Site Safety Plus courses, each team has a supervisor and there is a nice course SSSTS (Site Supervisor Safety Training Scheme) which is two days (can be over two weeks, on Saturdays etc) where the delegates get trained to deliver tool-box talks so getting every member of staff with recorded training. The courses are HSE recognised and the five day SMSTS (site management) has been around for 40 years now and SSSTS for the last 20.'

if the employee gained the SSSTS qualification, would any training he delivered (especially MEWP training) ensure full compliance with legislation?

As bob says the SSSTS and SMSTS will not help you in this instance. It sounds like you need a Train-the-Trainer course.  However I would expect this to be costly for what you need.  I would approach a training company and ask them for a price on delivering the courses you require and having it conducted "in-House" i.e. they come to you and your employees are the only delegates.

If you are able to get an employee trained to deliver the courses they would then have to be externally monitored by the relevant organisations such as IPAF etc. so that they can verify that the course content and its delivery meets their standards and then the instructor is competent to issue certification in their name.

Your desired route, i doubt will be availabe via a training provider as they will look upon it as potentially taking away business from them so will be expensive, hence my option for an external trainer coming to you to deliver a package of courses.

best of luck

Charlie Brown - don't you mean a restraint lanyard?

DOH!!!! I did it again which makes it twice within a couple of months.

Yes indeed Kate I do in fact mean restraint lanyard, thanks.

In fact a fall ARREST lanyard should NEVER be used in a MEWP as the operator should never be in the position where they are able to be thrown out of the basket and left hanging which is the point of wearing a harness and suitably adjusted restraint lanyard.

Originally Posted by: Kate

Charlie Brown - don't you mean a restraint lanyard?

Edited by user 25 April 2018 20:18:34(UTC)  | Reason: thick fingers