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julietpowell  
#1 Posted : 12 April 2018 18:11:55(UTC)
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julietpowell

Hi i am looking into training a current employee to enable him to undertake all aspects of Work at Height (MEWPS, Fall Arrest Podiums etc) training in-house, does anybody know what course i need to look for? he is a natural trainer and we have a large number of employees who require formal training so it makes sense to do it in-house if we can, but i want to do it correctly and ensure they receive the correct training so he needs to attend an accredited training course thank you juliet

Edited by user 12 April 2018 19:43:06(UTC)  | Reason: added

Bigmac1  
#2 Posted : 12 April 2018 19:05:03(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Never ever use fall arrest with a MEWP, Please listen

julietpowell  
#3 Posted : 12 April 2018 19:26:41(UTC)
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julietpowell

no we dont use fall arrest with MEWPs, but we have a number of different processes which require different methods to undertake safe working at height (MEWPS, podiums, Fall Arrest etc) and obviously they all require full training and if one person can train for all methods this is the manner i want to go. 

i didnt appriciate your rude reply, i am not stupid so please dont patronise without knowing all the facts

Stuart Smiles  
#4 Posted : 12 April 2018 20:12:12(UTC)
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Stuart Smiles

ipaf is recognised externally, in the north east, where I an, it can be done with tyne and wear access, on the ipaf website is a list of who are trainers.

they can do in house or full, Personally i believe full with certificates is better with tests etc, however some have the perception of once they've got certificates recognised elsewhere they'll leave...  

get all of the things onsite in a day so that you can use whatever's available from hire companies and relevant to your site. 

tickets last 5 years, but not recognised by citb as they have their own, but most recognise as appropriate. also do harness training at same time and potentially face fit testing if need be or arco for face fit. 

boigy77  
#5 Posted : 13 April 2018 09:22:25(UTC)
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boigy77

Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Never ever use fall arrest with a MEWP, Please listen

Every single MEWP??

Hsquared14  
#6 Posted : 13 April 2018 12:00:51(UTC)
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Hsquared14

Are some people confusing fall arrest with fall restraint?  Just askin'

I would endorse other people's comments regarding training providers though.

boblewis  
#7 Posted : 13 April 2018 12:47:28(UTC)
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boblewis

People able train for the aspects you listed are not necessarily found in a single organisation.  IPAF for instance covers powered access while PASMA is aimed at alloy towers etc.  A single day to train a trainer is not therefore a viable option - you will need to look at a series of courses from various providers

thanks 1 user thanked boblewis for this useful post.
julietpowell on 14/04/2018(UTC)
olufsen1  
#8 Posted : 13 April 2018 15:41:57(UTC)
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olufsen1

Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Never ever use fall arrest with a MEWP, Please listen

Totally Agree.
Originally Posted by: boigy77 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Never ever use fall arrest with a MEWP, Please listen

Every single MEWP??

Tell me when fall arest needs using in a MEWP?
boblewis  
#9 Posted : 13 April 2018 18:31:34(UTC)
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boblewis

Fall arrest can  only be envisaged in a cherry picker where the potential for catapault situations occurrs.  This is however a situation where misuse is the root cause

Edited by user 13 April 2018 18:32:26(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

julietpowell  
#10 Posted : 14 April 2018 08:31:39(UTC)
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julietpowell

Originally Posted by: boblewis Go to Quoted Post

People able train for the aspects you listed are not necessarily found in a single organisation.  IPAF for instance covers powered access while PASMA is aimed at alloy towers etc.  A single day to train a trainer is not therefore a viable option - you will need to look at a series of courses from various providers

Thanks Boblewis, Yes  i knew that he would have to attend seperate courses but i was hoping i could use just the one provider to offer all but ive found thats not the case :-( 

we are going to train by priority, MEWP 1st as we have more employees that requiring training for these then move down the list with the other courses.

Bigmac1  
#11 Posted : 14 April 2018 10:08:24(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Originally Posted by: julietpowell Go to Quoted Post

no we dont use fall arrest with MEWPs, but we have a number of different processes which require different methods to undertake safe working at height (MEWPS, podiums, Fall Arrest etc) and obviously they all require full training and if one person can train for all methods this is the manner i want to go. 

i didnt appriciate your rude reply, i am not stupid so please dont patronise without knowing all the facts

It wasnt rude, read the title of your post please.

I just thought that you wernt competent and were asking for advice!!!

Bigmac1  
#12 Posted : 14 April 2018 10:15:03(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Originally Posted by: boigy77 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Never ever use fall arrest with a MEWP, Please listen

Every single MEWP??

Why would you wanna arrest fall, when you can stop a fall?

The forces of a fall can pull a MEWP over, then whats the consequence?

Boom type MEPS only ever wear fall restraint, Scissors dont necesarily come with anchor points so you cant clip on.

boigy77  
#13 Posted : 14 April 2018 11:15:10(UTC)
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boigy77

Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: boigy77 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Never ever use fall arrest with a MEWP, Please listen

Every single MEWP??

Why would you wanna arrest fall, when you can stop a fall?

The forces of a fall can pull a MEWP over, then whats the consequence?

Boom type MEPS only ever wear fall restraint, Scissors dont necesarily come with anchor points so you cant clip on.

My mistake, I was reading too quickly, point taken.

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